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NEW CHURCH IN FORMATION IDEOLOGY OF COEXISTENCE NOT CONVERSION

Posted on by Eric Gajewski

Traditionalist teachings on false ecumenism

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/modernproblems/ecumenism/index.htm

http://www.cfnews.org/page10/page51/lefebvre_vaticanII_rupture.html

http://www.fatimacrusader.com/cr77/cr77pg49.asp?printer

Freemasonry is a pagan religion. It is Freemasonry that is behind the Ecumenical Movement. The French Freemason Yves Marsaudon boasted, "One can say that ecumenism is the spiritual son of Freemasonry." He went on to praise the ecumenism nurtured since Vatican II as a triumph of Masonic ideals. "Catholics", he said, "... must not forget that all roads lead to God. And they will have to accept that this courageous idea of freethinking, which we can really call a revolution, pouring forth from our Masonic lodges, has spread magnificently over the dome of St. Peter

Titus 3:10 A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid:

Titus 3:10
A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid:

The modernists doeth well to brainwash and misquide there own. In so much as they sayeth, "Do not go into the chapels of the SSPX for they do not have "full communion" with Rome and Truth, do not pray nor recieve their Sacraments. All the while the Pope is out praying with other religions that has been anathmetized, popes kissing Korans, saying Ghandi a Christ and Church denier is in heaven.

 Indeed,
We live in a mad hour wherest men have been so perverted they no longer realize they are neck deep in modernist muck. Hypocrties of the hour, part of the chastisment for having lost the faith, an evil and adulterous generation, that looketh for signs and now you seeth so many would be "Catholics" following Bayside, Medge, the MDM, all wolves spewing heresy sent by God in His Justice to further punish mankind.
Indeed as it were so wherest the excrement art left behind so to shall the flies swarm uponst it.....

THIS BEHAIVOR HAS BEEN GIVEN EXCOMMUNICATION BY THE CHURCH

THIS BEHAIVOR HAS BEEN GIVEN EXCOMMUNICATION BY THE CHURCH

HERE IS YET ANOTHER POPE IN THE CONCILIAR CHURCH BEING "BAPTIZED" BY A HEATHEN NONETHELESS

http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A272rcBlessedRatz.html

This the kind of modernism is getting ridiculous leading souls astray; the covenant of God is with the Catholic Church and Christ, Jews who reject Christ and or the Church do not share in heaven that is an infallible decleration by Jesus thru His Church, apparently Dr Hahn does not want to believe that...Mary and the Catholic Church are now the Ark. The New Law absorbed the Old and now ALL must come thru Christ and the Church, the modernists/Concilair Church teach heresy avoid such souls even Scott Hahn teaching this..

The covenant God made with the Jews “is still binding. Yes it is not revoked, and yes, the Jewish people are witnesses of the kingdom…”[1] Dr. Hahn

http://www.catholicintl.com/index.php/component/content/article/35-covenant/890-scott-hahn-and-gods-covenant-with-israel?fb_action_ids=439088972788734&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=246965925417366Ark,

what our Faith now says that CANNOT change:

Pope Piux XII, Mystici Corporis Christi, 29-30: “…the New Testament took the place of the Old Law which had been abolished…but on the gibbet of His death Jesus made void the Law with its decrees fastened the handwriting of the Old Testament to the Cross. On the Cross then the Old Law died, soon to be buried and to be a bearer of death, in order to give way to the New Testament of which Christ had chosen the Apostles as qualified ministers.”

The Catechism of the Council of Trent: Part III: The Decalogue: “With regard to the exposition of this Commandment, the faithful are carefully to be taught how it agrees with, and how it differs from the others, in order that they may understand why we observe and keep holy not Saturday but Sunday. The point of difference is evident. The other Commandments of the Decalogue are precepts of the natural law, obligatory at all times and unalterable. Hence, after the abrogation of the Law of Moses, all the Commandments contained in the two tables are observed by Christians, not indeed because their observance is commanded by Moses, but because they are in conformity with nature which dictates obedience to them.”[3]

Council of Florence: “that the matter pertaining to the law of the Old Testament, of the Mosaic law…although they were suited to the divine worship at that time, after our Lord’s coming had been signified by them, ceased, and the sacraments of the New Testament began.”[4]

Pope Urban VIII, Profession of Orthodox Faith, 1642: “Similarly, we profess that the legalities of the Old Testament, the ceremonies of the Mosaic Law, the rites, sacrifices, and sacraments have ceased at the coming of Our Lord Jesus Christ; they cannot be observed without sin after the promulgation of the Gospel. The distinction of clean and unclean foods found in the old Law pertains to the ceremonies which have passed away with the rise of the Gospel. The Apostles' prohibition on food offered to idols, blood, and the meat of strangled animals was suitable at that time to remove cause for disagreement between Jews and Gentiles; but since the reason for this prohibition has ceased to be, the prohibition too has come to an end.”

Pope Benedict XV, Ex Quo, 63: “The second consideration is that although the ceremonial precepts of the old Law have come to an end with the promulgation of the Gospel, and the new Law does not contain any precept which distinguishes between clean and unclean foods, nevertheless the Church of Christ has the power of renewing the obligation to observe some of the old precepts for just and serious reasons, despite their abrogation by the new Law.”[5]

The Fathers (representative sample of their consensus):

St. John Chrysostom: “Yet surely Paul’s object everywhere is to annul this Law….And with much reason; for it was through a fear and a horror of this that the Jews obstinately opposed grace” (Homily on Romans, 6:12); “And so while no one annuls a man’s covenant, the covenant of God after four hundred and thirty years is annulled; for if not that covenant but another instead of it bestows what is promised, then is it set aside, which is most unreasonable” (Homily on Galatians, Ch 3);

St. Augustine: “Instead of the grace of the law which has passed away, we have received the grace of the gospel which is abiding; and instead of the shadows and types of the old dispensation, the truth has come by Jesus Christ. Jeremiah also prophesied thus in God’s name: ‘Behold, the days come, says the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah...’ Observe what the prophet says, not to Gentiles, who had not been partakers in any former covenant, but to the Jewish nation. He who has given them the law by Moses, promises in place of it the New Covenant of the gospel, that they might no longer live in the oldness of the letter, but in the newness of the spirit” (Letters, 74, 4);

Justin Martyr: Now, law placed against law has abrogated that which is before it, and a covenant which comes after in like manner has put an end to the previous one; and an eternal and final law – namely, Christ – has been given to us, and the covenant is trustworthy…Have you not read…by Jeremiah, concerning this same new covenant, He thus speaks: ‘Behold, the days come,’ says the Lord, ‘that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah…’” (Dialogue with Trypho, Ch 11).

Scripture’s Testimony:

Hebrews 7:18: “On the one hand, a former commandment is set aside because of its weakness and uselessness ”

Hebrews 10:9: “He abolishes the first in order to establish the second

Hebrews 8:13: “In speaking of a new covenant he treats the first as obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away

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Pope Benedict XVI is a modernist that Pope St. Pius X already condemned. Here Cardinal Ratzinger states the heresy that protestantism is Not a heresy.It is truly  a mindless error. When one says that Protestanism is not a heresy it makes the individual a heretic:

“Cardinal” Joseph Ratzinger, The Meaning of Christian Brotherhood, pp. 87-88: “The difficulty in the way of giving an answer is a profound one. Ultimately it is due to the fact that there is no appropriate category in Catholic thought for the phenomenon of Protestantism today (one could say the same of the relationship to the separated churches of the East). It is obvious that the old category of ‘heresy’ is no longer of any value. Heresy, for Scripture and the early Church, includes the idea of a personal decision against the unity of the Church, and heresy’s characteristic ispertinacia, the obstinacy of him who persists in his own private way. This, however, cannot be regarded as an appropriate description of the spiritual situation of the Protestant Christian. In the course
of a now centuries-old history, Protestantism has made an important contribution to the realization of Christian faith, fulfilling a positive function in the development of the Christian message and, above all, often giving rise to a sincere and profound faith in the individual non-Catholic Christian, whose separation from the Catholic affirmation has nothing to do with the pertinacia characteristic of heresy. Perhaps we may here invert a saying of St. Augustine’s: that an old schism becomes a heresy. The very passage of time alters the character of a division, so that an old division is something essentially different from a new one. Something that was once rightly condemned as heresy cannot later simply become true, but it can gradually develop its own positive ecclesial nature, with which the individual is presented as his church and in which he lives as a believer, not as a heretic. This organization of one group, however, ultimately has an effect on the whole. The conclusion is inescapable, then: Protestantism today is something different from heresy in the traditional sense, a phenomenon whose true theological place has not yet been determined.”

Those who commit these types of scandals are guility of the spiritual equivalent of murder, but I’, here among you to prevent something far worst for you. While those who give scandal are guilty of the spiritual equivalent of murder, those who take scandal- who allow scandals to destroy faith- are guilty of spiritual suicide. — St. Francis de Sales

Those who commit these types of scandals are guility of the spiritual equivalent of murder, but I’, here among you to prevent something far worst for you. While those who give scandal are guilty of the spiritual equivalent of murder, those who take scandal- who allow scandals to destroy faith- are guilty of spiritual suicide. — St. Francis de Sales

Fr Frank Pavone, part of the New Church in formation, if he took time out to learn Catholicism and not the New Church doctrines he would know he has been cutoff from the church from not only making this interfaith/ecumenical novena but then handing it out to others scandalizing the would be faithful. Such it is with the New Church in formation..

"Fr. Frank Pavone of Priests for Life has composed an ecumenical Novena for the defeat of the HHS Mandate, which begins today. Though the devotion has its roots in Catholic spirituality, the prayers Fr. Frank has put together are ones that people of any Christian tradition can pray."....!!!!!!!!!!

Now Catholicism/Tradition stateth:

"For if they have doctrines opposed to ours, it is not fitting to be mixed up with them for this cause alone... what do you say? 'There faith is the same; these men are orthodox?' why, then, are they not with us?" - St. John Chrysostom

If any Bishops or Priest or Deacon shall join in prayer with heretics, let him be suspended from Communion" - III Council of Constantinople.

"Cut off from the Church: One must neither pray nor sing psalms with those who are cut off from the communion of the Church, whether clergy or layman: let him be excommunicated" - Council of Carthage.

"No one shall pray in common with heretics and schismatics" - Council of Laodicea.

"These men are Protestants; they are heretics. Have nothing to do with them.! - St. Anthony Alary Claret, The Modern Apostles.

A Protestant once approached St. John Vianney saying, 'though we are not together on earth, we shall be together in heaven'. The saint looked into the man's eyes and said gently: "As the tree leans, so the tree falls. If we do not live together on earth, we shall not live together in heaven. Death makes no change in that". The Protestant upon hearing these gentle words of the saint considered them, renounced his error, and became a Catholic.

http://prolifeaction.org/hotline/2012/novena/

Christ is not tolerant of error and untruths neither is the Church. We do not "dialogue" we teach, correct, rebuke and admonish when need be.

Christ is not tolerant of error and untruths neither is the Church. We do not "dialogue" we teach, correct, rebuke and admonish when need be.

There is one point in which I cannot agree with you: you ask me to spare heretics - or, in other words - not to prove myself a Catholic." ~ St. Jerome, Doctor of the Church ~

There is one point in which I cannot agree with you: you ask me to spare heretics - or, in other words - not to prove myself a Catholic." ~ St. Jerome, Doctor of the Church ~

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PLEASE READ THOROUGHLY (CANT HAVE FULL COMMUNION WITH THE MODERNIST HERETICS OF ROME, BOTH IN DEED AND DOCTRINE). PRAY FOR THE HOLY FATHER TO WAKE UP FROM HIS MODERNIST SLUMBER, GREAT CHASTISEMENTS ARE COMING:

***"If any ecclesiastic or layman shall go into the synagogue of the Jews or to the meeting-houses of the heretics to join in prayer with them, let them be deposed and deprived of communion If any Bishops or Priest or Deacon shall join in prayer with heretics, let him be suspended from Communion" - III Council of Constantinople.

***"Cut off from the Church: One must neither pray nor sing psalms with those who are cut off from the communion of the Church, whether clergy or layman: let him be excommunicated" - Council of Carthage.

***"No one shall pray in common with heretics and schismatics" - Council of Laodicea.

***"We decree that those who give credence to the teachings of heretics, as well as those who receive, defend, or patronize them, are excommunicated... If anyone refuses to avoid such accomplices after they have been ostracized by the Church, let them also be excommunicated" - IV Lateran Council

"Is it permitted for Catholics to be present at, or to take part in, conventions, gatherings, meetings, or societies of non-Catholics which aim to associate together under a single agreement everyone who, in any way, lays claim to the name Christian? In the negative!... It is clear, therefore, why this Apostolic See has never allowed its subjects to take part in the assemblies of non-Catholics, There is only one wav in which the unity of Christians may be fostered, and that is by furthering the return to the one true Church of Christ those who are separated from her. " (Pope Pius XI, Mortalium Animos). Comment: Anyone who believes it is all right to go to ecumenical services during Thanksgiving and Lent, and any other time, needs to read that encyclical For some 1920 years (33AD to 1958 AD), the Church has been vigilant on warning her children to stay away from such gatherings.

The 1917 Code of Canon Law states: that: " It is not permitted at all for the faithful to assist in any active manner at or to have any part in the worship of non-Catholics." [Canon 1258]

"How does a Catholic sin against faith? A Catholic sins against Faith by Apostasy, heresy, indifferentism and by taking part in non-Catholic worship." (Catechism of the Council of Trent, Catechism of Pope St. Pius X and The Baltimore Catechism).

"For if they have doctrines opposed to ours, it is not fitting to be mixed up with them for this cause alone... what do you say? 'There faith is the same; these men are orthodox?' why, then, are they not with us?" - St. John Chrysostom

"St. Anthony the Abbot would not speak to a heretic, except to exhort him to the true faith; and he drove all heretics from his mountain, calling them venomous serpents." - St. Athanasius on the life of St. Anthony the Hermit,

"It is therefore unlawful, and a profanation, and an act the punishment of which is death, to love to associate with unholy heretics, and to unite oneself to their communion" – St.. Cyril of Alexandri.

"You help the ungodly, and you are joined in friendship with those who hate the Lord; and therefore you did indeed deserve the wrath of the Lord - II Paralipomenon 19:2.

“Saint Peter and Paul have loathed heretics, and in their Epistles have warned us to avoid them” – St. Cyprian

St. Anthasius went as far as refusing the name of Christian to those who left the Church as he openly affirms "Those who go off to heretics, and all who leave the Church for heresy, abandon the name of Christ. Those who call these men "Christians" are in griev-ous error, since they neither understand Scripture at all nor the faith which it contains." - Discourse Against the Arians," Bk. I, ch.1, no. 1, PG 26:11

"St. John, the disciple of the Lord, (the Apostle of love), going to bathe at Ephesus, and .finding Cerinthus inside, rushed out ()f the bathhouse without bathing, shouting: 'Let us fly, lest even the bath-house fall down, for Cerinthas, the enemy of truth, is inside!' And Polycarp himself replied to Marcion, who met him on one occasion asking: 'Do you know me?' '1 do know you', replied Polycarp, 'I know you to be the .first born of Satan!' Such was the horror which the Apostles and their disciples had against holding even verbal , communication with any corrupters of the truth" - St. Irenaeus of Lyon, Against the Heresies, book III.

Pius XI in dealing with this issue that was so vehement in his own day had only the following to say "Certainly such movements as these cannot gain the approval of Catholics. They are founded upon the false opinions of those who say that, since all religions equally unfold and signify- though not in the same way - the native, inborn feeling in us all through which we are borne toward God and humbly recognize His rule, therefore, all religions are more or less good and praiseworthy. The followers of this theory are not only deceived and mistaken, but since they repudiate the true religion by attacking it in its very essence, they move step by step toward naturalism and atheism. Hence it clearly follows that anyone who gives assent to such theories and undertakings utterly abandons divinely revealed religion. " (Mortalium Animos)

"Since these wretched souls will have to be separated from God and Heaven for all eternity because their place will be in hell, already here on earth they have to be separated from the company of Christ our Lord and His servants and hand-maids. Predestinated souls, you who are of God, cut yourselves adrift from those who are damning themselves.!" - St. Louis De Monfort

MIND YOU BEFOREHAND OF ASSISI 3, THE MODERNISTS/ROME  WERE SAYING THERE WOULD BE NO PRAYING TOGETHER, DOES HONESTLY ANYONE BELIEVE THESE ENEMIES WITHIN ANYMORE?

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THERE ARE NO WORDS TO DESCRIBE THIS OUTRAGE BEFORE OUR LORD

"BLESSED" BY A SHIVA DEVIL PRIESTESS
"BLESSED" BY A SHIVA DEVIL PRIESTESS